Women's orgasm has little to do with love 2718

Are women are designed by nature to use men for their own purposes and then discard them?

Women do love their children but do they really love the men in their lives? Science is showing us how women use men relentlessly and how cold they really are inside. Don't you agree?

Do wise men avoid women? Do stupid men chase after women?

How does a woman find happily-ever-after when human nature has us wired them cheat?

Do women create misogamists by their natural behavior.

Consider this: In Thirty-Percent of evaluations paternity tests show that father is not the true biological parent. Source: The American Association of Blood Banks.

They are just as fucked up as we are. But too prideful to admit to it. Even when the evidence is right there. I guess there is a "feminine pretense" too.

Too bad guys can't fake orgasms too. Lol.

Thing is when she fakes it often she ends up going off unsatisfied which makes the situation worse. But that's not HIS fault it's hers for misleading him to think his job was done. But she will still blame him and call him inept and use it as a "justification" for cheating. Sad but true in a lot of cases.

Science is telling us that women are just as hard wired to cheat as men do if not more so. But they indicate that women do this unconsciously.

Maybe it's possible for a woman to love her mate after menopause and the reproduction sperm wars is out of the equation? Who knows?

I have had orgasms ever since I was 13.My earlier orgasms were self induced.My mother always told me that masterbation was ok and it detered me from having sexual intercourse until I was nearly 20.As I say,in case of emergency fuck thyself! Even before I had intercourse I was able to have an orgasm with my pants on simply by straddling my patner and grinding away.I had my first intercourse induced orgasm my 2nd time.I am glad I am very familiar with my body and am lucky enough to be so orgasmic.I would have to disaree with "Women fake orgasm to divert a partner's attention from their infidelities."because anytime I have "faked" it was with men was not due to infidelity,it was because I was bored and wanted to go home.Being the nice person I am I did not want to hurt thier fragile male ego.I know I should have taught them what I liked but I knew they were only in my life for the night and it all would have been a waste of time.The men with whom I have a relationship are the ones who get a class in Ç£L£$tÏå anatomy 101...The class has had a 100% success rate:)

>>Being the nice person I am I did not want to hurt their fragile male ego.<<

OUCH

I know my previous comment is more than likely T.M.I...lol...

OUCH,but true men are very sensitive about thier sexual prowess.

>>I would have to disaree with "Women fake orgasm to divert a partner's attention from their infidelities.<<

Maybe you are the exception Celestia? How could science be wrong? ;)

>>OUCH, but true men are very sensitive about thier sexual prowess.<<

but they were still boring, right? ;)

There have been many so called proven scientific theories that have been proven wrong in the past.

Yes,indeed they were boring,but shhh do not tell them;)As far as they know it was good for me.I am quite the performer in the faking dept.*takes a bow*

Ç£L£$tÏå-ÎñçøgÑîTø made this comment, "There have been many so called proven scientific theories that have been proven wrong in the past."

I hope this theory is wrong too Celestia. I keep coming across this same theory in various journals.

Anyway, Celestia it's good to have you back.

Celestia, women also are very sensitive about their sexual prowess as well, aren't they? The female ego is also fragile! Hence all the needing to validate and verify their sexuality, needing to "feel sexy", "feel wanted", "be a goddess" etc.

BTW, if we ever have sex please don't fake it ;)

Seriously, how could a guy possibly improve if you don't tell him what you want? Remember as you women say, "all women are different" so he would need to know what specifically gets your juices flowing.

If I think I am going to be having sex with them more than once I will teach them.

But what's the point of having sex if you aren't satisfied? even if it is just a one time thing? What do you get out of it?

Good question!At the time I did not care wether or not I was satisfied,I was all about the adventure back then.The euphoria of the "one night stand" was an addictive drug for me.At the time I was a little less disciminating in my choice of sexual partners.I am sure if I were out on the market again I would be much more discriminating.

Well well well, it seems we got a fuck veteran up in here. Well, interesting thread and interesting comments made by Celest.

One thing that still bothers me, if you women at times are so fucking bored while having sex, why not just cut the bullshyt and just STOP FUCKIN? I mean, when you get bored blogging or whatever is that you people do out there, you know what you do, you go find something else to do. Instead sitting her faking orgasms and wasting this man's baby-paste, just say, "Ok. Wait. Stop. This is not working." I know this shyt prolly happens only in movies but atleast you're doing what Dave Chappelle and every man wants women to do that is....KEEP IT REAL!

Hmmm...Fuck Veteran...I never thought of it that way.Yes indeed I have accumulated much experience in my almost 29 years.I am not ashamed of myself,I did what I did.At least I have no more curiosity left and am more able to be faithful to the man I have been with for 8 months now.I know what temperature the water is and have no desire to test it.I am satisfied;)with what I have.My man knows all about my past and does not care and that is all that matters to me.

No female could fake it with me I don't see how it could be. I mean the things that happen when woman have an orgasm is so much more then movie star stuff. She gets wet, she shakes, she gets wet. She gets sweaty, she gets wet. The smell, come on guys.

"Instead sitting her faking orgasms and wasting this man's baby-paste, just say, "Ok. Wait. Stop. This is not working.""

Any thoughts on this? I'm just curious if men would really prefer that women stop them in the middle of sex & tell them that it's just not working as opposed to allowing him to finish first & talk about it later. The reason I ask is that I tried this once when I was younger & I was chastised by the guy for "teasing" him. He complained about it for a long time.

But then again, a lot of the guys that I've been with couldn't care less if I have an orgasm anyway. To be truthful, I don't always care aout it, either. It feels good no matter what. Sometimes I just want the intimacy, the orgasm's not always the point of having sex.

No please don't stop. Let me finish LoL.

James I am sorry but I do not sweat when having a white light orgasm.I have even gone so far as to do a few vibrating kegal clenches at the end of my performance.Personally I have until recently had a hard time finding intamacy in sex do for me it was more anout having another adventure.To me sex was sex and love was love there was no mixing the two.The men I had the one nighters with knew the score.I could see the man a week later and I was not sad or embarrassed,I would simply say "hi".I was not one to get hung up on a man simply because we had sex.I agree with Invisiblegirl men do not take too kindly to a woman who leaves before he cums.I tried once and the man ended somewhat agressive.

Yes don't try to leave. And you forgot one part about faking........You can't get wet if you fake it. When woman cumm they get very wet. When you fake it, your dry, and very warm.....mmm

I ment to say when they cumm they are very wet and warm

Ç£L£$tÏå-ÎñçøgÑîTø if you not sweating durring sex, then maybe you havn't had a real whopper of a orgasm. The where you can't even breath

A guy 'fuck veteran' can tell if a woman is faking it IF he is paying attention. BUT, why would a guy care? If she's dumb enough to sit there and not tell a guy what to hit and what works for, then that's her problem.

I'm gonna get that phrase "Fuck Veteran" copyrighted. lol It's a start of a nu movement!

Damnit once again if people would stop fucking playing games then nobody would have anything to get angry over. If the guy is not fucking you to your liking just tell him how you like it instead of faking it. You don't have to be a rude bitch about it, just tell him what makes your juices run. It's that fucking simple. YES we get pissed off when you lie. Because then you blame us even further for the fact you didn't have an orgasm, even if you say "it's okay". It is NOT okay, you will talk about us w/ your girls about our weak ass performance.

Let me make it picture perfect for you. Women faking it hurts just about as much as not being able to get it up anymore. You feel impotent, she had to lie to make you feel better. She had to patronize you with a fake orgasm. AAAAGH!

It's NOT FUNNY. Some of us can tell when you are faking it because some women are not as good liars as they would like to believe. Sometimes we "buy it" then go away pissed off at the audacity of these women.

Contrary to popular belief I think most guys DO care whether or not the woman is satisfied except for a few assholes who just want to use the woman to get their nut off. Women that fake it do not help men satisfy them one bit. You tell us you're done, that's it. If you lied it's your fault you didn't get off. But 9/10 times the woman will be sour at the man. End of story.

"tell him what makes your juices run." Totally - he'll love you for it!!!

He doesn't want to hit something that does nothing.

It just never made sense to me how women expect a man to be an expert at pleasing them when they don't even tell us what they like.

Then when we get it wrong (because all women are not the same, or because they mislead us into thinking we're getting it right), they spurn us for being inept. And then turn around and use that as ammo against us.

NOT FAIR! NOT FAIR! *pouts*

And if a Woman's orgasm has nothing to do with Love, then why do they seem to refer to sex as "making love"? YET ANOTHER CONFUSING AND MISLEADING THING. Question is, who is making who love who????

I guess the "making love" part has nothing to do w/ THEIR feelings, but they probably figure they can "make" us love them??? My advice is don't attach feelings to something if they are not genuine. Otherwise people almost always get confused and hurt.

Your thoughts?

>>If the guy is not fucking you to your liking just tell him how you like it instead of faking it.<<

a woman expects a man to know by his intuition what she wants but he doesn't. Men don't have the kind of intuition that women have and really don't know what he's doing wrong. Of course the player does know what she wants so she may see him as a better sex partner.

YES! MEN DON'T HAVE INTUITION!!!!

Dave player - doesn't care what she wants.

>>I guess the "making love" part has nothing to do w/ THEIR feelings, but they probably figure they can "make" us love them??? My advice is don't attach feelings to something if they are not genuine. Otherwise people almost always get confused and hurt.<< under the new rules of our new 'Hookup Culture' the rules have changed. Sex is separate from love and the pill and feminism have made a great difference.

Sometimes I just women would outright tell the damn truth. Whether or not there are strings attatched. Assmuptions are dangerous.

I have altered my point of view since my early days as Celestia Incognito and my regret for my comment was posted earlier this month under the title "Regret and Humility".You can read it by clicking on my link.

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"It just never made sense to me how women expect a man to be an expert at pleasing them when they don't even tell us what they like."

This statement is too funny. My job as a PSO is to verbally fufill men's fantasies. Bear in mind the man has taken the time to look up the service, shell out his money, and choose the girl he wants. Do you know how many times I've asked the guy on the phone "what are you into" or "what is your fantasy" I am met with an "I don't know" or silence? They don't even know what they want enough to tell it to an anonymous stranger over the phone they are paying to fufill their fantasies. Of course then I have to be a mind reader, and do ALL the talking and tailor what I'm saying by how hard they start breathing.

The women I have had the best sexual experiences in my life are women that are with ease with their sexuality, and are good at masturbating them self. When you know how you can have an orgasm by yourself, you know how to have one with somebody else too. I love women that can tell me "how they like it", and I am eager to please :-).

Straightforward is best. When you have to guess you chance being wrong, and since they get angry when you're wrong they might as well just tell you what they want in the first place.

o A woman's capacity for orgasm depends not on her partner's sexual skill but on her subconscious evaluation of his genetic merits.

RESPONSE: I disagree, my orgasms depend on my love and trust for my partner and his for me, our mutual attraction to eachother, and sexual skill...no time have I subconsciously or consciously evaluated or sized up a man for his potential for making babies to get off. My ex-boyfriend and I had wonderful sex...probably the reason it lasted 5 years and my feelings about not wanting to have children with him had nothing to do with my ability to orgasm when we had sex.

o Women's orgasm has little to do with love or experience.

My orgasms have a lot to do with love and experience

o Good men are indeed hard to find.

Good men are only hard to find if you are not a good woman.

o The men with the best genes make the worst mates.

I find the idea of genes (with the exception of a family history of deadly diseases, deformity and retardation) as a measure of a person's relationship desirablity to be as distastful as astrology is as a means to match oneself with another.

o Women are no more built for monogamy than men are. They are designed to keep their options open.

I agree, it all depends on the individual as to whether or not he or she chooses monogamy.

o Women fake orgasm to divert a partner's attention from their infidelities.

I wouldn't know

Ok, tell me this. Me and my girl have great sex and she gets wet and warm and we sweat, but she tells me that she is embaresed to cum, but she has all the symptoms of a orgasm. Would she lie to me so that she doesn't get embarresed?