It's a game women love to play 126

I don't think women will lose interest as fast if the guy is good looking

or has a lot of money

it's a game women love to play' DOES THIS MEAN ALL WOMEN?

Dave Said: "it's a game women love to play' DOES THIS MEAN ALL WOMEN?" I hope not. I do not think that all women play games, just like all men do not play games either. If she is the kind of women who loses interest because your interaction was not "perfect" enough, then she is superficial and is not worth calling anyway.

I don't think all women play games, but they do all have rules that are so complex that they don't even understand them. As a man I realized that I better my odds by learning the game as much as possible. When I say game I mean rules of attraction. Every woman carries a little bit of every relationship she has ever been in with her. She will put that part on any new meeting with a man. If the new guy matches up with one of her past guys then that will determine her next step. Good or bad. With the game you learn not to listen to her words, but the feelings she gets with those words. That's why you see very intelligent women with some very bad men. Those men give her the feeling she needs and after that the man can do what ever he wants to her. Getting the woman addicted to drugs or booze will do the same thing. Be her drug and get her addicted to you. That's the game.

"Getting the woman addicted to drugs or booze will do the same thing. Be her drug and get her addicted to you. That's the game."

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"..........You know you done fucked up right?"

Sooo the answer to female "games" is to play games back?

Not really much of a game and more of telling a delusional game playing female what she wants to hear and showing her what she wants to see. (Be it acting "sensitive", trying play "bad boy", or both.)

I'm sorry, but I have better things to do than neg-hitting, running some C&F routine, or playing X amount day rules on some club rat broad who is nothing but a "jump off" anyway.

You what I have learned...rules are meant to be broken and females are meant to NOT be sweated, because they come a dime a dozen.

I am who a am around women (or people in general) back when I was out dating if I wanted to call a broad the next day I did...if didn't want to talk to her guess what...I didn't talk to her.

If I was at home doing nothing...then I was at home doing nothing

If I was out and about...I was out and about

She did something I didn't like (if by the rare chance it did not warrant me tossing her number) I called her on it.

She did something I liked she got props.

Felt (feel) just as comfortable being in socks and underwear as I did (do) in a nice suit.

I learned never try to "change" yourself and your behavior (unless it is a unhealthy or disgusting habit) to please someone else.

To answer Dave's question: "it's a game women love to play, 'DOES THIS MEAN ALL WOMEN?' "

Yes, some more than others, some will only do it initially, some will do it the entire time you know them.

How do you win? Simple, by not playing.

If silly females want to play silly games then fine, let some other simp, mangina, or self proclaimed player deal her mess and her problems.

What is the outcome of these "games"?

I am willing to bet

that at least 80-90% or more of these situations

Turn out to be divorces or bad breakups because of bullshit introduced into the relationship via these "games"

In the long run, it just doesn't work. If you're playing games you are a problem. If she is playing games she is a problem. There's nothing cute about it, when you put this under the microscope there are no good intentions at the core, it's all selfish manipulation and scheemes so one person can pull the other's strings. For their own amusement, or for their own benefit.

For the people who do these things as a force of habbit, where has that gotten you? Are you happily involved? Or are you still looking, trying to run the "game" on your next unsuspecting mark?

RE: professionalism left... You don't realize it, but everything you wrote above is the game. Everything you said about not putting the woman first is the game women want. It's called natural game. You wont admit it, but if you really did all that then you are a master. It how pimps turn out there women. Show you care a little then when they piss you off you tell them. Show them you care a little more and then push them away. Give them just a little bit of attention and then give lots of indifference. They will do anything for that little bit of care. Nice guys show care all the time and he women has nothing to look forward two.

Dude, if you're copying pimp moves and trying to get a woman addicted to your "game" then you can't even sit here and claim you have good intentions towards her. That's like saying a pusher gives a shit about his junkies. Nah buddy you trynna get her strung out, so you can get what you want from her. U wrong 4 that.

Think about this Ali, How has your plan worked out for ya? You have a bevy of ladies to pick from while your looking for "the one"? I'd say no, pretty sure your putting all you eggs in one basket and when it doesn't work out you get pissed. The pimp remark was an extreme example, but a true one. Women do not want equal in a relationship. They want to be taken care of and feel needed. Believe it or not giving them everything they want spoils them and they want more.

Woodsmen, I am going to have to disagree with you, its is not about "game" or following someone else. All "game" gets you is dysfunctional females and all it does is waste time. All you are doing is sinking time into an bad investment. Quality should be at the top of your list and she should live up the same standards that you set for yourself (and very few of "today's" women should even get consideration, let alone an interview.) and I quote..."Never date at the bottom of the barrel..." John Nada

Beyond a "physical" attraction what does some air headed broad give you?

Beyond a quick nut, what does she do for you?

What does a man gain from having some other guy's leftovers?

If guys before you didn't want to put up with her, why should you?

Trying to play "game" to please broads is like running on a treadmill. You get all worked up and sweaty, but in reality you go nowhere and stop right where you started. IMHO jacking off is a safer and more viable option (no risk of catching the clap, stalking, or child entrapment.)

There are a lot of things a man can be doing which do not involve going out and trying to play up to some pop culture "prefect man" image that a lot of females seem to have. Like working out, reading a book, fixing stuff, making stuff, working out, video games, or gaining a new skill.

To quote a wise contemporary..."If vagina had a stock, it would have plummeted long ago, because these females are just giving it away..."

Getting sex from a female is a no brainer, because they give it up to anyone (male or female) who tells them what they want to hear and shows them what they want to see.

but...

If you messed with one dysfunctional female, you have messed them all.

Same empty headed mindsets

Same entitlement issues

A turd in a nice wrapper is still a turd...

My God, this blog can sometimes really be the blind leading the blind.

*SMH*

Ali, some guys want that turd, and will suffer whatever indignity or humiliation necessary to have it.

I say let them have it...just, like the chicks who dig jerks, don't try to con people into thinking that they want something more.

...and worse, don't come to someone like me to make them feel like a man when they would obviously rather spend their life with someone who punks them, and not in the bdsm sense.

The thing about a woman who is a turd herself, she is quick to recongnize when other women are turds. You know, the old saying "takes one to know one'?

If I were a guy, I wouldn't put much stock into a woman who doesn't have a lot of (or a couple of very close) female friends. She can say it's because she's somehow different from other women, but the truth is, it's harder for a woman to manipulate and play her games with female friends than she can with her male friends. Even when a woman like this is just friends with a guy, she'll find a way to influence him to see things her way.

DJ, repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.

If a person needs so much validation from their same sex peers, I wonder whether or not they are capable of acting independently. If I'm dating someone, I'd rather date them, not their whole portable herd with all the drama that goes with it.

"DJ, repeating something over and over doesn't make it true."

I keep that in mind when I read "Women just want bad boys". It's practically a mantra on this blog.

"If a person needs so much validation from their same sex peers, I wonder whether or not they are capable of acting independently."

How jaded to see friendship as seeking validation. It is common on this blog for posters to see dating as seeking validation from opposite sex peers, and that is just as jaded and somewhat pathetic.

DJ, here's a quote from Goodfellas for you:

"...to us, those goody-good people who worked shitty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day, and worried about their bills, were dead. I mean they were suckers."

Whores and gangsters always think the rest of us are pathetic. This is nothing new.

"Whores and gangsters always think the rest of us are pathetic."

Well multiple times Ali and Tommy have referred to women (oh excuse me, SOME women) as pathetic. They have also referred to certain men as pathetic. And given the right situation, these people can be considered "the rest of us". So would that make them gangsters or whores? Tommy I can see as gangster, or at least one not to be reckoned with, but Ali is about as gangster as K-FED. Using netspeak, ghetto slang and routinely disrespecting women does not make you gangster. And as far as being a whore.......I doubt if anyone would be willing to pay for that, unless they are into (self) pity cases.

And since we are quoting from Goodfellas, how about:

"You know, we always called each other good fellas. Like you said to somebody, you're gonna like this guy. He's all right. He's a good fella. He's one of us." - Henry Hill

Even criminals think the are "all-right" guys. They tell each other they are all-right guys. So really, how do these so-called "nice" guys think they come across when they are complimenting each other on how they are such "all right" guys when nobody else outside of their circle seems to think so? Nobody is going to be glorifying the "nice" guy with a well-written, well directed classic movie.

And you know what I noticed? On your blog, you'll start talking about a guy you are seeing, and you don't frequent the blog here very much. Then suddenly you will not be mentioning the guy at all, and you will be back here, seeking out threads I have posted on to start another epic back-and-forth. Am I starting to sense some sort of pattern here?

DJ, if anyone wants to check for this "pattern" you think you're seeing, they can go look for themselves.

Still, insulting me and other posters doesn't make your argument any more sound...unless your whole point is that you don't like us. We get that already.

"DJ, if anyone wants to check for this "pattern" you think you're seeing, they can go look for themselves.

Just something I thought was a bit strange. A couple of weeks of nothing, then 7 days of goofy back and forth. Maybe it is coincidence........yeah, that's it.

"your whole point is that you don't like us. We get that already. "

And you all don't like the world's population of women. At least not the population who are willing to cater to delicate egos.

"At least not the population who are willing to cater to delicate egos. "

That should read the population of women who aren't willing to cater to fragile egos.

Lying doesn't help your argument either.

This isn't even an "arguement", it is just back and forth name calling. And yes, it was something that I did notice awhile ago and meant to mention before. Nobody ever seems good enough for you, that is why I once referred to you as the Seinfeld of Hezbollah.

Seriously, DJ...you damn yourself more than I ever could.

Cosign what professionalism said.

The "game" is practiced, perfected, and coached by those who are primarally out to get laid.

It is inherrently dishonest.

There is no honor in it.

Deception and manipulation is the rule of thumb.

Maybe some people think it's ok because it might get them what they want,

but, after all, this is the very thing that makes a jerk a jerk.

If you need to play games to get her attention

or if she needs you to play games for you to get her attention

.......

*shrugs*

If this stuff worked in the long run, these folks wouldn't have a revolving door policy with the dating pool, would they?

"Think about this Ali, How has your plan worked out for ya?"

Actually, it's currently working out just fine, and I don't have to play games with anyone either. Never needed to rely on that, never will.

"You have a bevy of ladies to pick from while your looking for "the one"? I'd say no, pretty sure your putting all you eggs in one basket and when it doesn't work out you get pissed."

I don't think you understand where I'm coming from.

The man with the herem is not necesarally going to be happier than the man with one woman. That depends on the quality of the relationship(s).

You can date as many women as you want but if your methods select for the worst of them and to boot you never do a quality check, you're fucked, and I don't mean in the wham bam thank you ma'am sense either.

You seem to think that dating one woman at a time is putting all the eggs in one basket...but that's only because you're comparing it to having a lot of women at once...which apparantly is your chosen frame of reference.

Our frames of reference are different. And so are our respective goals, apparantly.

There are plenty of guys who juggle various women but they are still not happy because they can find what they really needed in none of them. And so the search continues.

If you know what you are looking for you don't need to juggle women. And if you are serious about any one of them you don't need the others. You are playing them and you are fooling yourself.

How many years and how many women does somebody have to go thru before they mature enough to have a working and lasting relationship? It's your life, and your time to waste.

You could put a lot of mileage on yourself while running around with the wrong kinds of women, and fail to find a good match for you because you spent too much time being the wrong guy. How then, can you claim happiness, when you've set a bad track record for yourself and nobody who's character is worth a damn wants anything to do with you?

I'm rarely pissed merely because a relationship ends. Sometimes they need to end. How it ends is what I might find fault with. Even if you have several girlfriends you aren't going to take too kindly to bullshit from them, are you? And if the various women you deal with are so trivial to you that you don't care how they treat you then that is a curious thing in itself.

"The pimp remark was an extreme example, but a true one. Women do not want equal in a relationship. They want to be taken care of and feel needed. Believe it or not giving them everything they want spoils them and they want more."

Ok but why do you have to play games and try to trick their minds in order to take care of these needs that you mentioned? Why be a fraud? Why is there a need for you to try to get them hooked on you? You are the one who used the drugs/gambling comparison, and you know how those things ruin people. Why would you want to get a woman strung out on you like that? That's not healthy at all, and love has nothing to do with that, I don't care if you date 1,000 women you will fail in the long run and make a mockery of yourself. It shows you don't care about the woman you just want to control her by using this game.

I don't agree with giving someone everything they want and spoiling them. That would be creating a monster, and a vicious cycle because those types are usually never satisfied. So if she wants to be spoiled, I'm outta there, she'll be someone else's problem. Maybe you'll date her. lol

All these things that you've been saying just sounds like you are trying to justify why you should be a player. Which is funny because I seem to remember you saying elsewhere that you definitely were NOT trying to be a player....interesting.

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That's how you sounding right now.

"Seriously, DJ...you damn yourself more than I ever could. "

This blog is like the Village of the Damned. And really.....what does the damned really have to say to th damned?

Woodsmen, you talk about eggs in baskets. You have to understand, some have no eggs in their baskets at all, and presumably like it that way. Hell, some seem to not even have baskets.

When I say eggs in one basket I was trying to say. Lots of men meet one woman and think she is everything they want. They get blind, used, hurt and pissed off. I used to be that guy. I don't date a lot of women. I do however talk to any woman I want. Get many phone numbers, emails and what not. Most are from woman I would have never talked to before. You can say I'm a player, but I see myself as a man who is willing to say no. I have had women tearing my pants off and I stop them. I do that because I value myself more now then I ever have in my life. As for no eggs, that's true. I now choose to have a woman in my life if I so want. I can also not have one in my life and be fine with that. I don't cry myself to sleep thinking I will die alone. Many men do that. I used to cry over women that I felt got away. Looking back they did me a favor. From everything I have learned I have the ability to walk up to any one and say "Hi". I can turn that "Hi" into a friendship, a smile or something more. It's not perfect, but at least I give it a try and I learn and figure out what went wrong so I'm better the next time. You need to roll the dice in life every once in awhile.

As long as your life does not hinge on whether a realationship works out or not you should be ok.

A lot of people make the mistake of putting too much importance on one person not really knowing whether that person is right for them or not

this doesn't mean go deal with a whole bunch of people and be a committmentphobe

but some people do too much too soon with the wrong person and it's understandable why they would be devastated when things don't go well

eventually people might mature and learn enough about themselves where they understand moreso what kind of partner they need in their lives, and hopefully choose accordingly

Eventually even you might want to settle down with one woman

Now would that be putting all your eggs in one basket?

Or choosing somebody you think best suits you?

All of this you are saying doesn't negate my earlier point: if you are selecting for women who are game players you will have very different results than if you were selecting for women who have good intentions towards you.