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Is it that nobody wants you when you're old and gray? (10,739 reads)

posted Fri, 10/02/09

Do women love older men? Do women find gray hair and wrinkles attractive on men -- as attractive, that is, as a fine, full head of pigmented hair and a vigorous, firm complexion? The evolutionary psychologists suggest yes. They believe that women look for the signs of maturity in men because a mature man is likely to be a comparatively wealthy and resourceful man. That should logically include baldness, which generally comes with age and the higher status that it often confers. Yet, as Desmond Morris points out, a thinning hairline is not considered a particularly attractive state.
 
Assuming that women find older men attractive, is it the men's alpha status? Or could it be something less complimentary to the male, something like the following -- that an older man is appealing not because he is powerful but because in his maturity he has lost some of his power, has become less marketable and desirable and potentially more grateful and gracious, more likely to make a younger woman feel that there is a balance of power in the relationship? The rude little calculation is simple: He is male, I am female -- advantage, man. He is older, I am younger -- advantage, woman. By the same token, a woman may place little value on a man's appearance because she values something else far more: room to breathe. Who can breathe in the presence of a handsome young man, whose ego, if expressed as a vapor, would fill Biosphere II? Not even, I'm afraid, a beautiful young woman.

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1. Todd Winters left...
Mon, 03/17/08 7:55 pm

It's not what you can get out of a relationship that matters..it's what you can bring to it


2. Anthea left...
Sat, 04/12/08 12:40 am

I am attracted to a man 2 decades older than I am. He is all that was described, but somehow, in my eyes, those (gray hair and lines) actually add to his appeal. Maybe, i do not see it because his personality (a great one, i would say...) overpowers whatever age evidence his body has... and the maturity and confidence this older man has in everything and everybody he deals with but still keeping his boyish charm is very appealing

Women have their own minds, that's true... but i think every woman has the secret yearning of being taken cared of. I do. Not financially ( as the past few decades, we have been given the freedom of earning as much as men), but in every other aspect of our lives. .... and that is something, i haven't known a younger man to be capable of.


3. rod left...
Sat, 04/12/08 10:18 am

from my own experience ,im 46 full head of hair,good income ,divorced with no kids and no more alimony,have nice cars and motorcycles ,in very good health and phisical shape. i get girls as young as 19 tears old hitting on me all the time.when i ask them what the big atraction is ,their answer is always the same ,older guys have more experience at every thing. most youger girls i have been with complain that thir boyfriends of the same age braket dont know how to satisfye them when it comes to sex,the most comon complaint is that they dont pull their hair during sex. here is my experience for what its worth.


4. Indiana Dave left...
Wed, 04/16/08 2:02 pm

Natalie:

<< He is male, I am female -- advantage, man >>

I have to disagree with this statement. By far women have the advantage and power because they know how to manipulate most men by using our hormones against us. Most men have no idea how to use a womans emotions against her.


5. Natasha left...
Mon, 07/21/08 2:29 am

I'm in my mid-twenties and am what most people consider to be extremely attractive. People usually mistake me for being 18 -20. I am also educated and intelligent, so I'm what people consider to be a rarity. (I'm not tooting my own horn here, just stating the facts so you know where I am coming from.) I am approached by men of all ages and ethnicities, pretty much every single time I go out. It makes me quite picky, because I have an extremely large pool of men to choose from. It can be overwhelming, especially because it makes it a daunting tast to weed out a genuine man who sees past your beauty. As such, I would never go for an older man, nor do I find wrinkles or gray hair attractive at all. I'm physically attracted to men who look young in face and body,no sagging skin, and have a full head of hair that isn't grayed. Also, older men would look even stranger with me as a partner, considering I look so young. That aside, I think that men still have this false notion that women are attracted to older men. We are not, especially considering the fact that women are becoming more financially independent and educated. The women who are not financially secure, and are arm candy for older men, usually only date very wealthy older men, not because they are attracted to them, but they are attracted to their wallets! If they have a pre-nup and cannot benefit from a divorce, the women figure that they will outlive these men (they are often about to croak), and inherit their wealth. Sad but true. I did a paper on this for a sociology class in college so I find it to be an interesting topic. I think men want to believe this holds true, because they want to assure themselves they have the same chances with beautiful, younger women as younger men do. Maybe the older men do, with gold-diggers (who often have affairs with younger men), but that's about it.


6. alexei.kirillov left...
Mon, 07/21/08 3:54 pm

When i was a science student long time ago many times people told me that there is acutally a very simple mathematical formula to calculate the best maximal age difference. if one prospective lover has let's say age X, then a prospective afair has only a reasonable chance of success if the age of the other prospective partner is not less than X divided by 2 and than 7 added to it. So let's say the man is 50 years old. Then the women should not be younger than 50/2 +7, that is not younger than 32 years old (and vice versa). I am wondering if people on this site can provide some counterexamples to this "rule"..


7. terri left...
Sat, 10/04/08 7:47 am

I agree with Natasha. I'm now in my 40s, but when I was younger and more appealing to many different types of men, I would never have considered someone much older than I was. She is right in saying it's the fantasy of older men. Just look at all the Hollywood movies with this situation.


8. jacie left...
Tue, 10/21/08 7:46 am

'I think that men still have this false notion that women are attracted to older men. We are not, especially considering the fact that women are becoming more financially independent and educated'

erm...YES WE ARE!!! It's not just some myth stated by older men. I think that some women do date within the same age range as themselves but I for one like older men (and no im not a man pretending to be a young woman here). I know many women who do. It's not a myth and it's no more a fantasy than being attracted to any other 'type' of person. I find older men both physically and mentally attractive.


9. Me left...
Sun, 11/16/08 3:11 pm

"I think that men still have this false notion that women are attracted to older men. We are not, especially considering the fact that women are becoming more financially independent and educated"

The first problem with that statement is your usage of "we." You cannot speak for the entire female gender, just as I cannot. As a female speaking solely on behalf of herself, I must say that I truly disagree with your statement. I am in my early twenties, and my preference is to date older men who are usually in their forties. Maturity is never an issue in my relationships, as even my closest friends are within that age bracket. Older men have the tendency to possess certain characteristics that are beyond a younger man's reach, within his younger years. I prefer a man with maturity, charm, experience, class, and just an overall gentleman. Additionally, it is always nice to be with a partner who truly appreciates you and knows how to treat a woman. While I have tried my best to locate these desirable traits in the 20s and 30s age brackets, I have been unsuccessful with my journey. (This is not to say that these men cannot possess theses traits.) Regardless, you are only speaking for yourself when you say that "we" (all women) are not attracted to older men. There is no man that can turn me on better than an older gentlemen. And yes, the wrinkles and baldness are beautiful in my eyes.


10. Laura left...
Sun, 12/28/08 1:35 pm

I am 24 years old and I met a man in his fifties, 2 years ago. I still cannot discribe what I felt the instant I met him and the day I spent in his company. I only saw him once after that.

Having thought about him every single day during these 2 years, I have realised that it was definitely love at first sight. I'm sure he felt the same, although it was practically impossible to go any further, but I know this is serious and that it's definitely to be continued.

My point to all those who base their arguments upon stereotypes and prejudice: believe me, it's possible to completely fall for a much older man and for all the physical traits implicated.


11. Samantha left...
Sat, 02/21/09 12:33 pm

I am 23, he is 40. I am attracted to his mind and to his beautiful eyes, the rest is a bonus. From him I have a security and commitment rare to a man of my age. He is generously exerienced and much more considerate than many of the younger men.


12. danielle left...
Tue, 03/03/09 11:46 pm

i agree that older men are much more attractive than younger men. i used to chase after younger men that were closer to my age. i am in my early twenties, and i find myself to be more attracted to men 20 years older than me because they respect me and treat me the way i want to be treated. i can have an intellectual, mature conversation with them, while with younger men, i never could find anything in common with them when i talked to them. i find many younger men to be disappointing, and i still can't seem to find any attraction to them anymore, not physically or emotionally.


13. Brittany left...
Thu, 03/12/09 7:17 pm

I'm 20 and dating a man whose 46. Dating someone older is much more fullfilling then dating someone my age. He is careing, kind, and has respect. He is established and I find him to be amazing! He has kids that range from being two years younger then me to five years older. I love him. He makes me happy and thats all that matters to me.


14. girl left...
Sun, 05/10/09 4:57 pm

Hey guys,

I am 26 and have just met a guy who is 38. He is 12 years older than me, which I admit really bothers me a lot. I wish he was younger.

I have earlier dated 3 guys. First one I was 22 he was 20, second one I was 23 he was 26. And third one I was 26 he was 29.

First time I am dating an older guy. I do not have a fetish for older guys at all, and as a matter of fact, our age gap is worrying both of us. He is afraid that I'm still discovering myself, I am afraid that he is just too old!

I have noticed many talking about younger men dating older rich men. This guy ain't rich. He's a Professor who does a lot of political work, so he doesn't earn shit. Yes his job is attractive, but because he gives a shit about the world - not because he's rich. As a matter of fact, I earn more than he does.

But my God... He is amazing. In every way. So incredibly caring. He wants to marry me I'm pretty sure. He's centered, he's smart (smarter than me), he holds his own. Yes I earn more than him, but that's because I work at a consulting firm.

Anyway, that is the case with me. Take what you want. Getting used to the age thing...


15. Ali left...
Sun, 05/10/09 5:23 pm

I hope you two can work that out then. He was 12 years older than you when you met him and he will always be 12 years older...was he right though? Are you still discovering yourself?


16. animal left...
Sat, 07/04/09 8:38 pm

I am 54 years old and very attracted to two men over 70. What I like about them is that they aren't trying to be Mr. Macho. They are tuned in to me. They pay attention to me and they understand that I like that. Men my own age simply do not get it that I want to be noticed. I'm an attractive woman, very fit, and men constantly ask me how my ex-husband ever let me go. In addition, I am educated and intelligent, and yet I have been single for 12 years. I am dating a nice man my age, but it isn't enough. He likes to spend lots of time with his kids (a good thing, by the way) but I know that I am not and will never be first in his eyes. The older men with whom I am close friends treat me like I am the most wonderful woman in the world. They want to protect me. They never, ever find fault with anything I say or do. Instead, they marvel at what I can do. They compliment me on my self-reliance, and I can tell that both are very sexually attracted to me. Why don't men my own age ever behave this way? They are sexually attracted, but they treat me like I am just another woman, not a special one. Is it so bad to want to be thought of as the most beautiful woman in my man's eyes?


17. Peter left...
Tue, 07/21/09 1:05 pm

I am 57. When I was 21 I dated uglier girls and got rejected. Now I think it was because i was actually an over acheiver. - international sportsman, good degree and other things. when i was 25 there were no single women in engineering communities. Now i am 57 and it is actually easier to find women between 28 and 40 than women over 40. Almost the only thing I need to do is point. I am fat, grey and balding. but much more confident about myself. Tall, fit, cleverbut not rich just changing the world. The 46 year old left me at the airport holding two tickets. She lost her confidence. Now she pretends to be 35 and chases 30 year old men. The 33 year who is now my woman hasn't asked for a thing. We share common interests in business and art and see life the same way - at least it seems so. "Successful" old men are in demand. They have proved themselves over time. Their genes are good and desireable. A low status old man is a different story. So women have a greater variety of taste in men than men do in women. Young men offer more resources if faithful but old men offer good genes.


18. Tabacco left...
Fri, 10/09/09 11:17 am :: http://tabacco.blog-city.com/

Women, who prefer wrinkled skin, generally prefer unwrinkled wallets!