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posted Monday, 5 September 2005

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Men value power, competency, efficiency, and achievement. They are always doing things to prove themselves and develop their power and skills. Their sense of self is defined through their ability to achieve results. They experience fulfillment primarily through success and accomplishment.

Everything about men is a reflection of these values. Even their dress is designed to reflect their skills and competence. Police officers, soldiers, businessmen, scientists, cab drivers, technicians, and chefs all wear uniforms or at least hats to reflect their competence and power.

They don't read magazines like Psychology Today, Self, or People. They are more concerned with outdoor activities, like hunting, fishing, and racing cars. They are interested m the news, weather, and sports and couldn't care less about romance novels and self-help books.

They are more interested in "objects" and "things" rather than people and feelings. Even today while women fantasize about romance, men fantasize about powerful cars, faster computers, gadgets, gizmos, and new more powerful technology Men are preoccupied with the "things" that can help them express power by creating results and achieving their goals.

Achieving goals is very important to a man because it is a way for him to prove his competence and thus feel good about himself. And for him to feel good about himself he must achieve these goals by himself. Someone else can't achieve them for hirn. Men pride themselves in doing things all by themselves. Autonomy is a symbol of efficiency, power, and competence.

Understanding this men characteristic can help women understand why men resist so much being corrected or being told what to do. To offer a man unsolicited advice is to presume that he doesn't know what to do or that he can't do it on his own. Men are very touchy about this, because the issue of competence is so very important to them.

Because he is handling his problems on his own, a man rarely talks about his problems unless he needs expert advice. He reasons: "Why involve someone else when I can do it by myself?" He keeps his problems to himself unless he requires help from another to find a solution. Asking for help when you can do it yourself is perceived as a sign of weakness.

However, if he truly does need help, then it is a sign of wisdom to get it. In this case, he will find someone he respects and then talk about his problem. Talking about a problem for men is an invitation for advice. Another man feels honored by the opportunity. Automatically he puts on his Mr. FIX -It hat, listens for a while, and then offers some jewels of advice.

This male custom Is one of the reasons men instinctively offer solutions when women talk about problems. When a woman innocently shares upset feelings or explores out loud the problems of her day, a man mistakenly assumes she is looking for some expert advice. He puts on his Mr. Fix-It hat and begins giving advice; this is his way of showing love and of trying to help.

He wants to help her feel better by solving her problems. He wants to be useful to her. He feels he can be valued and thus worthy of her love when his abilities are used to solve her problems. Once he has offered a solution, however, and she continues tobe upset it becomes increasingly difficult for him to listen because his solution is being rejected and he feels increasingly useless. He has no idea that by just listening with empathy and interest he can be supportive. He does not know that women talking about problems is not an invitation to offer a solution.

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1. Ali left...
Monday, 5 September 2005 4:41 pm

"When a woman innocently shares upset feelings or explores out loud the problems of her day, a man mistakenly assumes she is looking for some expert advice."

"innocently"? Hahahahaah! So okay next time a woman "innocently" talkes about her feelings and problems I will just nod and go "uh huh" and listen and that will be sufficient? And when the unsolved problems persist I will have to do a lot of listening then, won't I? Eventually she will expect me to do something about her unhappiness anyway so why not nip it in the bud????

I just say let women learn to solve their own problems. They wanted equality so it's time for them to grow up and learn how to handle their own shit for a change.

If a man expresses his problems (because he needs help), the woman will sit there and argue with him about how he is supposed to feel or make him feel worse for even talking about his problems rather than offer any advice that will help him solve them...

Moral of the story...don't ask a woman for advice. They will just patronize your feelings (try to make you feel better about the problem that they won't help you solve...which gives you a false sense of security) or chastise you (make you feel like shit because you have a problem you can't solve on your own) and end up deferring you to somebody else anyway. Lol.

Save your time and energy. Just ask one of your buddies or your brother or dad or uncle. Hell, even a random guy you don't know will help you troubleshoot without bullshit if he can.


2. Dave left...
Monday, 5 September 2005 6:16 pm

.Again I can say from personal experience that all women are not this way. Beware of those who are though


3. kiki left...
Tuesday, 29 November 2005 4:36 pm

Ali

innocently"? Hahahahaah! So okay next time a woman "innocently" talkes about her feelings and problems I will just nod and go "uh huh" and listen and that will be sufficient? And when the unsolved problems persist I will have to do a lot of listening then, won't I? Eventually she will expect me to do something about her unhappiness anyway so why not nip it in the bud????

You have already made assumptions? based on what may i ask? a past relationship? one incident? Why is it that some guys have an "all or nothing" approach to life, either black or white no in-between.


4. DJ left...
Tuesday, 29 November 2005 4:45 pm

That's just how some people are Kiki. If people they've met in THEIR life are a certain way, well then everybody must be that way. Anyone who is not that way is either the EXCEPTION, or not telling the truth. There's no such thing as in an individual, everyone is just lumped into categories.


5. Dave left...
Tuesday, 29 November 2005 6:15 pm

I'm sure everyone knows that professional counselors advise men to just listen and not try to fix her problem unless she expressly asks you to fix it.


6. Anna left...
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For a strong happy relationship women should meet needs of their partner. To understand what that needs are will require time and patience.Every man, even that who achieved already a lot in his life, needs new challenges. If woman will challege her man more often they both benefit and such relationship will reach deep emotional connection and understanding.